You're best bet is to actually visit a store, go to the OPEN BOX section in TVS, NOT home theatre and you'll be able to find what you're looking for, as well as a far discounted price for the OPEN BOX item. It'll be a floor model, or missing a remote, etc (I literally just bought the item you're looking for that's how I know to go about it this way) but you'll save yourself a couple hundred bucks.